Baptists are all Calvinists whether they will admit it or not, that is, if they accept OSAS.  We’ve got a Baptist who pretends not to be a Calvinist but is stuck like a broken record on his defense of OSAS and therefore his opposition to and constant attack on the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ continues, for OSAS is anti-gospel.

Once Justified, Perfectly Justified – For those who claim a Believer can lose his Salvation or become Unjustified and the post that it links to argue for OSAS, yet again.

So, Paul Dohse approves of OSAS, and he trots out Alex A. Guggenheim to prove it.

Ok, wow, because Alex A. Guggenheim says it I must believe it. I mean, obviously, unlike John MacArthur, John Piper, Calvin, Luther, Augustine, Spurgeon, and ever other Calvinist, he must actually have authority. Sorry but Hebrews 10:25-27 and 1st John 1:7 still stands no matter what this braying jackass wonderful Baptist gentleman or any other says. (See my apology for the harsh language at the end)

(The harsh language is called for because this purposeful deceiver and twister of Scriptures gives us some jibber-jabber about Hebrews 10:10 but ignored Hebrews 10:25-27 because he knows it obliterates the false doctrine of OSAS which he knows in his heart came from Satan himself, but which he full well intends to spread anyway, and I’ll tell him that to his face. In fact I’m going over there to say that in a comment right now.

Now you give us some jibber-jabber about Hebrews 10:10 but ignored Hebrews 10:25-27 because you know it obliterates the false doctrine of OSAS which you knows in your heart came from Satan himself, but which you full well intends to spread anyway.  How else could you have seen Hebrews 10:10 but not Hebrews 10:25-27?  And anyone who writes an article defending OSAS knows ahead of time that the opposition will bring up those passages, so you know and I know that you ignored them on purpose because your interest is in deceiving people with Baptist doctrine and landing them in hell, not on teaching the truth.


Yes, indeed, Guggenheim, Nice try, but Hebrews 10:25-27 and 1st John 1:7 still stand. You Calvinists and Baptists need to quit playing these immoral games. You commit grave sins and continue in it, and you’re done son.

….but only until you repent and ask for forgiveness of course. We can bring in here too, John’s other statement in 1st John that if you see a brother commit a sins that is not mortal you can pray and get him forgiven (1 John 5:16) but he says if he commits a sin that is mortal, he doesn’t say you can pray about that and get him forgiven (because in that case his repentance is necessary and prayer on his own part). We can also bring up Christ teaching us to pray “Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us” and even the parable in Matthew 18 where Christ actually REVOKES the forgiveness already granted to one after he refuses to forgive others. If we must continue to pray for forgiveness, then we don’t have a onetime forgiveness but must continue to be forgiven as we continue to sin. John says as much in 1st John 1:7 where he tells us we have the continual cleansing of Christ’s blood “if” we keep walking in the light, i.e. keep repenting and praying for forgiveness and striving to live the Christian life, or as Paul (or Barnabas) puts it “pursue holiness without which nobody will see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:14) Its not a simple: “Woohoo I’m saved; now time to go commit all the sin I want.” Baptist (i.e. Calvinist) doctrine is false. You do have to actually try to live the Christian life, or you get disqualified from the race. Another Pauline metaphor, from 1st Corinthians 9.

How is it that all these big “Paulinists” have never read any of the passages where Paul likens to the Christian life to a race where you can get disqualified for not following the rules????

Continuing the metaphor from 1st Cor 9, is 2nd Timothy 2:5

“And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.”

Or, in modern English:

You can’t win a race if you don’t follow the rules.

So the Christian life has rules?  So much for faith alone and all this OSAS nonsense.  Just because you joined the race doesn’t mean you win.  You cheat, you lose.  “Faith alone” is cheating.

Apology (2/6/2014): I have decided I do need to apologize to you Dohse, and also to Alex.  You guys are so brainwashed into the Baptist method of twisting Paul in a Gnostic direction by paying attention only to Romans 4 and rejecting and ignoring all the rest of the epistles, that even if you have a marginal awareness of passages like 1st Corinthians 5, you have no capability to bring them to the forefront of your mind or understand them after a reasonable manner or incorporate them into your system.  Baptistism has totally disabled you, almost with the force of demonic possession.  Therefore, it is too harsh of me to consider you to be wilfull twisters of scripture, and I should not have called Alex a braying jackass, because you are just victims of a denomination from the pits of hell, and in some sense not truly responsible for your actions since you are not in full possession of your faculties.